@Phoenixyin13: The now-famous PPO, one of the core alignment algorithms underlying ChatGPT, was actually rejected by the top AI conference NIPS (now NeurIPS) in 2017. Even more ironic is the reviewers' reasoning: limited novelty, insufficient improvement over baselines. This phenomenon directly tears off the veil of academia...
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The article recounts how PPO, as one of the core alignment algorithms of ChatGPT, was rejected by the top AI conference NIPS in 2017 on grounds of limited novelty and insufficient improvement, revealing the drawbacks of academic peer review.
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Now famous as one of the core alignment algorithms underlying ChatGPT, PPO was actually rejected by the top-tier AI conference NIPS (now NeurIPS) in 2017.
Even more ironic were the reviewers’ stated reasons:
- Limited novelty
- Insufficient improvement over baselines
This episode directly tears off several layers of disguise from academic peer review.
In the academic world—especially in the eyes of top conference reviewers—what counts as innovation?
It must involve pages of incomprehensible mathematical derivations. It must be a completely new, complex framework no one has ever proposed before.
But the core spirit of PPO is precisely the opposite: minimalist. PPO’s predecessor was TRPO, a paper with extremely complex mathematical derivations. Though theoretically elegant, it was notoriously difficult to implement and computationally expensive. John Schulman’s original motivation for PPO was to reduce that complex theory into an algorithm that is simple to write, stable to run, and extremely engineering-friendly.
As a result, this great simplification made for engineering practicality was seen by arrogant reviewers as lacking novelty. Academia often falls into a self-congratulatory trap:
Making simple problems complex is called skill; making complex problems simple is dismissed as hackery.
Reinforcement learning papers around 2017 were awash with alchemy: Change a random seed, tweak a hyperparameter—and experimental results could differ drastically.
Many papers would benchmark and tune obsessively to squeeze out a high score in tables to impress reviewers—scores that were impossible to reproduce in any real industrial setting.
On some specific toy tasks, PPO might not have scored as high as those heavily tuned algorithms. But PPO’s true terror lies in its generalization and robustness. It was the first RL algorithm that you could throw at a complex task without much tuning and have it just work.
Reviewers stared only at the benchmarks in front of them, completely missing that they had personally rejected an industrial miracle that would one day help drive a multi-hundred-billion-dollar large model industry.
If John Schulman had doubted himself and abandoned PPO after being rejected by NIPS, perhaps the later alignment of LLMs via RLHF would have taken several more years of detours.
Truly great research never derives its vitality from an “Accept” decision by reviewers.
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