Forget the Pelican, it's Weevil-Time! / Benchmaxxing-Proof SVG and Vision Benchmark

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The article describes testing the Qwen3.8-27B AI model with different quantizations and settings to recreate images as SVG, aiming to develop a benchmark resistant to benchmaxxing. Preliminary results indicate that high reasoning effort and specific cache configurations optimize performance.

The Artist: Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q3\K_XL, q8_0 caches, xhigh, temp 1.0, image-min-tokens 1024, froggeric template) I was screwing around with different Qwen3.8-27B quants and thought of this very simplistic but seemingly bechmaxxing resistant combined SVG and vision test. Just let the model recreate any given image as SVG with this prompt: Recreate as SVG. Pelicans can be easily benchmaxxed, recreating random photos seems a lot harder to train for. I tried a shitload of very complex prompts but the above one does the job best in my opinion. I furthermore tried different --image-min-tokens from 512 to 4096, different reasoning levels from no reasoning to xhigh, different temperatures and different kv-caches. Preliminary results are, that --image-min-tokens 1024 and --reasoning-effort xhigh with --temperature 1.0 and --cache-type-k bf16 and --cache-type-v bf16 give the best results. Non-reasoning results are, at least with the quants (Q3 and Q4) I can run, more than creepy... I also have the suspicion, that the chat template influences the output quality – please check if you are bored. Interestingly kv-caches at q8_0 gave "good" results as well but q4_0 completely destroyed the output quality (insect legs everywhere... oh the horrors I have seen), which is a great, visually impressive reminder, to never ever use q4_0 caches! Would love to see how Q6 to BF16 model quants perform with this task. If you have enough VRAM, you know what to do! ;) Used quants: - Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q3_K_XL (V2) - Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q4_K_XL (V2) Used templates: - built in - qwen3.8-froggeric-v22.3.1 Other prompts I tried: - Analyze thoroughly and be very detailed about perspective, composition, proportions, colors etc. Recreate as simplified but true to the original SVG - Analyze perspective, composition, colors and detail. Copy as simplified but true to the original SVG - recreate as svg. simplify but make it recognizable - Make a SVG copy - Copy as SVG - Recreate as simplified but true to the original SVG
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