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Xiaokang Chen shares two prompts, 'Think with Grounding' and 'Think with Pointing', to improve model performance in domains like counting in Thinking mode. These prompts use bounding boxes and points to make the MLLM's reasoning more human-like.

You can try the following two prompts in the Thinking mode (via web/app) to get a better model experience in certain domains like counting (Note: keep a line break after the bracketed titles):: [Think with Grounding] ....... [Think with Pointing] ...... These two prompts encourage the model to adopt bounding boxes or points (which are classic fundamentals in computer vision) in its thought process. Personally, I love the pointing approach for solving abstract topological/reasoning tasks. Using points to represent continuous trajectories makes the MLLM's reasoning process feel much more human-like. Speaking purely from my personal exploration: Getting a multimodal model to accurately represent continuous trajectories with points is still a highly challenging frontier task for the entire industry. The current performance on real-world scenarios still has a long way to go.
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You can try the following two prompts in the Thinking mode (via web/app) to get a better model experience in certain domains like counting (Note: keep a line break after the bracketed titles)::

[Think with Grounding] …….

[Think with Pointing] ……

These two prompts encourage the model to adopt bounding boxes or points (which are classic fundamentals in computer vision) in its thought process.

Personally, I love the pointing approach for solving abstract topological/reasoning tasks. Using points to represent continuous trajectories makes the MLLM’s reasoning process feel much more human-like.

Speaking purely from my personal exploration: Getting a multimodal model to accurately represent continuous trajectories with points is still a highly challenging frontier task for the entire industry. The current performance on real-world scenarios still has a long way to go.

Xiaokang Chen (@PKUCXK): Vision is now live on web and app. 👀

Come test the new eyes, but give its pure text capabilities a try while you’re at it.

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