First time fine-tuning, need a sanity check — 3B or 7B for multi-task reasoning? [D]

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A self-taught developer asks for advice on choosing between 3B and 7B models for a first multi-task fine-tuning project focused on deeper reasoning about underlying questions.

Ok so this is my first post here, been lurking for a while. I’m about to start my first fine-tuning project and I don’t want to commit to the wrong direction so figured I’d ask. Background on me: I’m not from an ML background, self-taught, been working with LLMs through APIs for about a year. Hit the wall where prompt engineering isn’t enough anymore for what I’m trying to do, so now I need to actually fine-tune something. Here’s the task. I want the model to learn three related things: First, reading what’s actually going on underneath someone’s question. Like, when someone asks “should I quit my job” the real question is rarely about the job, it’s about identity or fear or something else. Training the model to see that underneath layer. Second, holding multiple perspectives at once without collapsing to one too early. A lot of questions have legitimate different angles and I want the model to not just pick one reflexively. Third, when the input is messy or has multiple tangled problems, figuring out which thread is actually the load-bearing one vs what’s noise. These three things feel related to me but they’re procedurally different. Same underlying skill (reading what’s really there) applied three ways. So the actual question: is 3B enough for this or do I need 7B? Was thinking Phi-4-mini for 3B or Qwen 2.5 7B otherwise. I have maybe 40-60k training examples I can generate (using a bigger model as teacher, sourcing from philosophy, psych case studies, strategy lit). Hardware is M4 Mac with 24gb unified. 3B fits comfortably with LoRA, 7B is tight but doable. Happy to rent gpu if needed. What I’m actually worried about: • Can 3B hold three related reasoning modes without confusing them on stuff that’s outside the training distribution • Does the “related but not identical” thing make this harder to train than if they were totally separate tasks • What do I not know that’s gonna bite me Not really looking for “just try both” type answers. More interested if anyone has actually done multi-task training on reasoning-ish data at this scale and can tell me where it went sideways. Any pointers appreciated, even just papers to read if the question is too vague.
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