Unpopular opinion : Qwen 3.8 27b is not an overthinker

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Summary

The article argues that Qwen 3.8 27b's increased reasoning token usage is similar to other Chinese AI models like GLM and DeepSeek, with user frustration stemming from hardware limitations. It suggests using a reasoning budget can maintain performance over Qwen 3.6.

Yes it uses a ton more reasoning tokens than 3.6 did But test in on the same tasks with the other chinese models, glm 5.3, deepseek v4 flash and pro, etc it's really similar, and they are needed The reality is, we're just frustrated because our hardware do not allow most of us to have 1M context (I know that it's not supported yet) with 150 tps decode Furthermore, if you don't mind the quality drop, you can just add a reasoning budget, it will still be better than 3.6
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