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A Trust-region Framework for Moment Estimation

arXiv cs.LG · 2026-08-06 Cached

This paper introduces a trust-region framework for understanding adaptive moment estimation methods like Adam, deriving a family of learning-rate mechanisms based on p-th moment constraints (2≤p≤4), including a kurtosis-based variant (Gmake). Experiments on GPT2-124M show that second-moment versions become competitive when trust-region controls are stronger.

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The qlora 2e-4 default is wrong under 10k samples and nobody talks about it [D]

Reddit r/MachineLearning · 2026-07-16

The author argues that the commonly recommended learning rate of 2e-4 for QLoRA fine-tuning is too high for datasets under 10k samples, leading to overfitting and poor evaluation, and suggests using a lower learning rate like 1e-4.

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A Learning-Rate-Gated Failure of GRPO in a Small Language and Vision-Language Model Web Agent: A Controlled Null and Its Mechanism

arXiv cs.AI · 2026-07-15 Cached

This paper investigates whether GRPO post-training improves a small (4B-8B) language and vision-language model web agent. It finds a controlled null result: no configuration yields credible gains on mastered tasks, and moderate-to-high learning rates cause degradation or collapse, revealing a double dissociation between degrade and collapse regimes.

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@maximelabonne: Quantifying Hyperparameter Transfer and the Importance of Embedding Layer Learning Rate (first screenshot, Kalra and Ba…

X AI KOLs Following · 2026-05-22 Cached

This paper introduces a framework to quantify hyperparameter transfer in LLMs and finds that the benefit of μP over SP in AdamW training largely comes from increasing the embedding layer learning rate. It also explores the impact of weight decay and other factors.

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@maximelabonne: Turns out you never really needed µP, you just needed to scale the embedding learning rate by model width I'm no nanoGP…

X AI KOLs Following · 2026-05-21 Cached

A tweet suggests that scaling the embedding learning rate by model width can replace the need for µP (micro-parameterization), referencing Muon optimizer for hidden layers and Adam for the rest.

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Dropping learning rate fixed my Qlora fine-tune more than anything else i tried

Reddit r/LocalLLaMA · 2026-05-14

A user found that reducing the learning rate from 2e-4 to 1e-4 significantly improved QLoRA fine-tuning of Llama 3.1 8B on a small dataset (8k samples), preventing overfitting and leading to better evaluation results.

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A Closed-Form Upper Bound for Admissible Learning-Rate Steps in Belief-Space Dynamics

arXiv cs.LG · 2026-05-11 Cached

This paper derives a closed-form upper bound for admissible learning-rate steps in belief-space dynamics using KL divergence and Bregman geometry, focusing on cross-entropy classification.

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A Closed-Form Upper Bound for Admissible Learning-Rate Steps in Belief-Space Dynamics

Hugging Face Daily Papers · 2026-05-07 Cached

This paper presents a closed-form upper bound for admissible learning-rate steps in belief-space dynamics, providing a theoretical result for optimization in robotics or control.

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