A Hacker News user asks the community about experimental approaches to using LLMs for coding, expressing frustration with current prompt-response loops and seeking fundamentally different methods.
I'm a bit annoyed by the feeling that we're kind of stuck when it comes to using LLMs for programming.<p>I use Claude Code and Codex, but I haven't been able to enter flow state like I can when I hand write code.<p>This is kind of ironic to me since AI should be a bicycle for the mind, but right now it feels like a bicycle that just brakes abruptly every couple minutes. I stop, wait, review, prompt again.<p>Is there anyone exploring something fundamentally different than the prompt response loop we have today?<p>I actually think the idea of a tab model is directionally better than prompt response.<p>Would love to hear about any startups, personal experiments, etc.
# Ask HN: Is anyone experimenting with different ways of using LLMs for coding?
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I use Claude Code and Codex, but I haven't been able to enter flow state like I can when I hand write code\.
This is kind of ironic to me since AI should be a bicycle for the mind, but right now it feels like a bicycle that just brakes abruptly every couple minutes\. I stop, wait, review, prompt again\.
Is there anyone exploring something fundamentally different than the prompt response loop we have today?
I actually think the idea of a tab model is directionally better than prompt response\.
Would love to hear about any startups, personal experiments, etc\.
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A Hacker News user asks how to maintain flow state when coding with AI, describing the shift from long flow states to multiple short ones and suggests parallel idea exploration.
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