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Bias Compounds, Variance Washes Out

Hacker News Top ↗ · 2026-05-29 Cached

This article demonstrates that using stochastic rounding for BF16 optimizer state can match FP32 performance because unbiased errors cancel over time, whereas round-to-nearest stalls due to compounding bias. An experiment with an MLP shows BF16+SR achieves similar loss to FP32 while using less memory.

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Reparametrizing Shampoo and SOAP for Subspace Basis Updates and BFloat16 Storage

arXiv cs.LG ↗ · 2026-05-27 Cached

This paper proposes a reparametrization of the preconditioner in Shampoo-based optimization methods (like KL-Shampoo and SOAP) to support BFloat16 storage and reduce computational overhead by updating only part of the basis via QR decomposition in a subspace, making these methods more memory- and time-efficient.

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