@qqqqqf_: I additionally tested Fable5. I found that it does not achieve very high similarity (>0.9) with most of Anthropic's models. This likely indicates that it could be an unprecedented new base model trained on a mixture of data (just speculation; note that post-training also affects fingerprint results, for reference only). But there is an extra surprise…

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User @qqqqqf_ shared fingerprint test results for Fable5 and other models, finding that Fable5 has low similarity with most Anthropic models but very high similarity with kimi k2.7, qwen3-7max, glm5.2, etc., speculating possible data leakage or distillation. At the same time, they released an open source project ai-model-fingerprint for model identification and detection.

I additionally tested Fable5. I found that it does not achieve very high similarity (>0.9) with most of Anthropic's models. This likely indicates that it might be an unprecedented new base model trained on mixed data (just speculation; note that post-training also affects the fingerprint results, for reference only). But the extra surprise is that kimik2.7, qwen3-7max, glm5.2 all maintain very high similarity with Fable?? (0.97/0.93) Could it be that the leakage and distillation already happened during mythos? (The above is just speculation, please view it rationally) And it maintains very high dissimilarity with opus4.8, which likely indicates that opus4.7/4.8 are indeed not on the same branch as Fable/sonnet5, confirming why we have been complaining about opus4.7/4.8. Project at: https://github.com/qqqqqf-q/ai-model-fingerprint... Using OpenRouter's original price API.
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I added Fable5 to the test and found that it does not achieve extremely high (>0.9) similarity with most of Anthropic’s models.

This likely indicates that it is a new base model trained on an unprecedented mixture of data (this is just speculation; post-training also affects the fingerprint results, so take it as a reference).

But an additional surprise is that kimi k2.7, qwen3-7max, and glm5.2 all show extremely high similarity with Fable?? (0.97/0.93)

Could it have leaked and been distilled back during mythos? (This is just speculation; please view it rationally.)

And it shows very low similarity with Opus 4.8, which probably indicates that Opus 4.7/4.8 are indeed not on the same branch as Fable/Sonnet 5, confirming why we have been complaining about Opus 4.7/4.8.

Project at: https://github.com/qqqqqf-q/ai-model-fingerprint…

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qqqqqf-q/ai-model-fingerprint

Source: https://github.com/qqqqqf-q/ai-model-fingerprint

AI Model Random Number Fingerprint Dataset

Using the statistical distribution fingerprint of “random number selection” to distinguish/detect 17 AI models. The principle originates from hlwy-ai-checker (https://github.com/hanlinwenyuan/hlwy-ai-checker).

Principle

Large models are not true random number generators. With a fixed prompt “Please randomly select a number from 1 to 355” and temperature=1.0, intensive sampling reveals that different models, due to differences in training data/architecture/RLHF/tokenizer, produce statistically distinguishable distribution fingerprints. This fingerprint is not easily overridden by system prompts and can be used to detect whether third-party APIs are adulterated.

Collection

  • OpenRouter API, 17 models, ~300 valid samples per model (minimax post-processing recovered 622)
  • Fixed prompt, max_tokens=32, most models use reasoning.enabled=false to disable reasoning
  • grok-build-0.1 / kimi-k2.7-code force reasoning, switch to max_tokens=2048
  • Each request fully saved: raw response body / system_fingerprint / usage (including cost) / request parameters / latency / http_status
  • Supports resume from breakpoint, concurrency, 429 backoff retry

Data Structure

PathContent
data/raw_*.jsonlFull raw records per model (one request per line, with full response)
data/summary.jsonFingerprint vectors + statistics + 17×17 similarity matrix + full number sequences
figures/Visualizations (distributions/statistics/similarity heatmap/box plots/overview)

Models (17)

claude opus 4.6/4.7/4.8, sonnet 4.6, haiku 4.5; gpt-5.5/5.4/4o-mini; glm-5.2; deepseek v3.2/v4-flash/v4-pro; minimax-m3; qwen3.7-plus; grok-build-0.1; kimi k2.6/k2.7-code

Key Findings

  • claude opus 4.6 ≈ 4.7 (cos=0.997, fingerprints almost identical), but 4.8 is completely different (cos≈0.04), and 4.8 unique=2 quasi-fixed output (300 times almost only outputs 237)
  • kimi k2.6 vs k2.7-code (same base, k2.7 is post-training version): cos=0.631, post-training significantly changes the fingerprint
  • deepseek same stack different corpora v3.2 / v4-flash / v4-pro mutual cos=0.15~0.31
  • Cross-model most similar: haiku-4.5 ≈ sonnet-4.6 (0.997), kimi-k2.7-code ≈ glm-5.2 (0.916)

Reproduction

bash pip install -r requirements.txt cp config.example.yaml config.yaml # Fill in OpenRouter key python run.py --samples 300 # Collection python check_data.py # Integrity check python analyze.py # Statistics + charts python estimate.py # Token/cost estimation

Cost

Full collection costs approximately $1.03 (grok reasoning accounts for the majority, 637 output tokens/req).

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